Error on Centering has grown significantly

Your description is describing sync and it doesn’t solve the problem. I know this because I have implemented sync in this way. I’ve spent some time looking at this. It’s also what Jared tried and, as I predicted, didn’t help.

What is needed is a way to determine a different offset, between where the scope is commanded to go and where it arrives This is the correction that Frank made. It is not the same as the difference between where the scope reports it is pointed and where it is actually pointed.

Trying to do something about this, applying what Frank did - an offset to the slew position to compensate for this difference - is possible.

A competent developer could develop an ASCOM hub that did this, and any extra corrections that people feel are necessary - there will be!

But I think it will be a support nightmare, regardless of if it’s done in an ASCOM driver, in a separate hub, or in SGP. Every mount will be different, it will be difficult to get meaningful feedback, and the act of doing this will further raise expectations.

But if people want to prove me wrong then please do so.

Chris

Cool Jared. Does this “no mount model” log for a perfect centering on my G-11 shed any light on what’s happening?

[6/28/2016 9:14:43 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Center telescope message received…
[6/28/2016 9:14:43 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Solving with Plate Solver Pinpoint…
[6/28/2016 9:14:43 PM] [DEBUG] [Center Scope Thread] Error in auto center update thread, Thread was being aborted.
[6/28/2016 9:14:43 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Setting filter for auto center…
[6/28/2016 9:14:43 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Setting filter position 1…
[6/28/2016 9:14:43 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Filter position 1 is already set. Skipping…
[6/28/2016 9:14:43 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Performing auto center step 1…
[6/28/2016 9:14:43 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Skipping step 1…
[6/28/2016 9:14:43 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Auto center reference frame solved successfully…
[6/28/2016 9:14:43 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Skipping step 2, have previous sync from last Validate frame
[6/28/2016 9:14:43 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Performing auto center step 3 (scope)…
[6/28/2016 9:14:43 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Auto center slewing scope to match reference…
[6/28/2016 9:14:43 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Slewing to J2000 RA: 20.5811111111111 (20:34:52) Dec: 60.1533333333333 (60° 09’ 12")
[6/28/2016 9:14:43 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Slew received J2000 coordinates, mount requires JNOW, converting…
[6/28/2016 9:14:43 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Slewing to JNOW RA: 20.5876738718898 Dec: 60.2101905596951
[6/28/2016 9:14:48 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Scope reports it is done with synchronous slew, verifying…
[6/28/2016 9:14:48 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Slewing has completed
[6/28/2016 9:14:48 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Settling for 5 seconds
[6/28/2016 9:14:53 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Settling has completed
[6/28/2016 9:14:53 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Auto center slew complete…
[6/28/2016 9:14:53 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Performing auto center step 4…
[6/28/2016 9:14:53 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Created full file name: C:\Users\Astro\AppData\Local\SequenceGenerator\Temp\plate_solve_image-9.fit
[6/28/2016 9:14:53 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] SGM_CAMERA_PLATE_SOLVER_CAPTURE message received…
[6/28/2016 9:14:53 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] Collecting FITs headers for plate solve frame…
[6/28/2016 9:14:53 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] Collecting FITs headers for plate solve frame…
[6/28/2016 9:14:54 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] ASCOM (QSI) Camera: setting gain to LOW…
[6/28/2016 9:14:54 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] ASCOM (QSI) camera: setting normal speed readout…
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] QSI expose and download: 23.0983212s
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] Created full file name: C:\Users\Astro\AppData\Local\SequenceGenerator\Temp\plate_solve_image-9.fit
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] Internal Interface: Set Preview…
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] Display image preview using asynch task…
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] =========== Save file took 84 ms
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] SGM_CAMERA_PLATE_SOLVER_CAPTURE complete…
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Auto center verification frame complete. Plate solving image C:\Users\Astro\AppData\Local\SequenceGenerator\Temp\plate_solve_image-9.fit
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Plate Solve Hint RA: 20.5810952083452
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Plate Solve Hint DEC: 60.1531500025558
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Plate Solve Hint Scale: 2.54945840102918
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Plate Solve Hint Angle: 264.811509170074
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Plate Solve Search: Use up to magnitude 20 stars
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Plate solve binning: 4x4
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Plate solve exp len: 20
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Auto center validation frame solved successfully…
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Syncing to J2000 RA: 20.5811415889114 Dec: 60.1502988040098
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope Sync: Passed in J2000 but mount requires JNOW, converting…
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Syncing to JNOW RA: 20.5877053396504 Dec: 60.2071566904074
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Attempting to write fits header info for C:\Users\Astro\AppData\Local\SequenceGenerator\Temp\plate_solve_image-9.fit
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Opening fits file…
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Successfully opened fits file…
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Writing fits headers…
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Closing fits file
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Failed to sync the rotator to 264.8214 degrees, not connected!
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Auto center complete…
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Center Scope Thread] Retrying auto center. Total Error > Allowable error: 17.3 > 10.0
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Center Scope Thread] RA Error: -2.6
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Center Scope Thread] DEC Error: 17.1
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Center telescope message received…
[6/28/2016 9:15:17 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Solving with Plate Solver Pinpoint…
[6/28/2016 9:15:18 PM] [DEBUG] [Center Scope Thread] Error in auto center update thread, Thread was being aborted.
[6/28/2016 9:15:18 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Setting filter for auto center…
[6/28/2016 9:15:18 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Setting filter position 1…
[6/28/2016 9:15:18 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Filter position 1 is already set. Skipping…
[6/28/2016 9:15:18 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Performing auto center step 1…
[6/28/2016 9:15:18 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Skipping step 1…
[6/28/2016 9:15:18 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Auto center reference frame solved successfully…
[6/28/2016 9:15:18 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Skipping step 2, have previous sync from last Validate frame
[6/28/2016 9:15:18 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Performing auto center step 3 (scope)…
[6/28/2016 9:15:18 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Auto center slewing scope to match reference…
[6/28/2016 9:15:18 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Slewing to J2000 RA: 20.5811111111111 (20:34:52) Dec: 60.1533333333333 (60° 09’ 12")
[6/28/2016 9:15:18 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Slew received J2000 coordinates, mount requires JNOW, converting…
[6/28/2016 9:15:18 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Slewing to JNOW RA: 20.5876738747871 Dec: 60.2101905984834
[6/28/2016 9:15:22 PM] [DEBUG] [Main Thread] PopulateDataModel: Transferring view to the data model…
[6/28/2016 9:15:22 PM] [DEBUG] [MF Update Thread] Performing serialize…
[6/28/2016 9:15:27 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Scope reports it is done with synchronous slew, verifying…
[6/28/2016 9:15:27 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Slewing has completed
[6/28/2016 9:15:27 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Settling for 5 seconds
[6/28/2016 9:15:32 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Settling has completed
[6/28/2016 9:15:32 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Auto center slew complete…
[6/28/2016 9:15:32 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Performing auto center step 4…
[6/28/2016 9:15:32 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Created full file name: C:\Users\Astro\AppData\Local\SequenceGenerator\Temp\plate_solve_image-9.fit
[6/28/2016 9:15:32 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] SGM_CAMERA_PLATE_SOLVER_CAPTURE message received…
[6/28/2016 9:15:32 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] Collecting FITs headers for plate solve frame…
[6/28/2016 9:15:32 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] Collecting FITs headers for plate solve frame…
[6/28/2016 9:15:32 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] ASCOM (QSI) Camera: setting gain to LOW…
[6/28/2016 9:15:32 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] ASCOM (QSI) camera: setting normal speed readout…
[6/28/2016 9:15:55 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] QSI expose and download: 23.0983212s
[6/28/2016 9:15:55 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] Created full file name: C:\Users\Astro\AppData\Local\SequenceGenerator\Temp\plate_solve_image-9.fit
[6/28/2016 9:15:55 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] Internal Interface: Set Preview…
[6/28/2016 9:15:55 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] Display image preview using asynch task…
[6/28/2016 9:15:55 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] =========== Save file took 85 ms
[6/28/2016 9:15:55 PM] [DEBUG] [Camera Thread] SGM_CAMERA_PLATE_SOLVER_CAPTURE complete…
[6/28/2016 9:15:55 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Auto center verification frame complete. Plate solving image C:\Users\Astro\AppData\Local\SequenceGenerator\Temp\plate_solve_image-9.fit
[6/28/2016 9:15:55 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Plate Solve Hint RA: 20.5810982366598
[6/28/2016 9:15:55 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Plate Solve Hint DEC: 60.1532689118062
[6/28/2016 9:15:55 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Plate Solve Hint Scale: 2.54932872456029
[6/28/2016 9:15:55 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Plate Solve Hint Angle: 264.821456337059
[6/28/2016 9:15:55 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Plate Solve Search: Use up to magnitude 20 stars
[6/28/2016 9:15:55 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Plate solve binning: 4x4
[6/28/2016 9:15:55 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Plate solve exp len: 20
[6/28/2016 9:15:56 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Auto center validation frame solved successfully…
[6/28/2016 9:15:56 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Syncing to J2000 RA: 20.581191749866 Dec: 60.1532126363536
[6/28/2016 9:15:56 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope Sync: Passed in J2000 but mount requires JNOW, converting…
[6/28/2016 9:15:56 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Syncing to JNOW RA: 20.5877546910064 Dec: 60.2100713304892
[6/28/2016 9:15:56 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Attempting to write fits header info for C:\Users\Astro\AppData\Local\SequenceGenerator\Temp\plate_solve_image-9.fit
[6/28/2016 9:15:56 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Opening fits file…
[6/28/2016 9:15:56 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Successfully opened fits file…
[6/28/2016 9:15:56 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Writing fits headers…
[6/28/2016 9:15:56 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Closing fits file
[6/28/2016 9:15:56 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Failed to sync the rotator to 264.8109 degrees, not connected!
[6/28/2016 9:15:56 PM] [DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Auto center complete…
[6/28/2016 9:15:56 PM] [DEBUG] [Center Scope Thread] Automatic Auto Center Success - Total Error <= Allowable error: 6.9 <= 10.0
[6/28/2016 9:15:56 PM] [DEBUG] [Center Scope Thread] RA Error: -6.8
[6/28/2016 9:15:56 PM] [DEBUG] [Center Scope Thread] DEC Error: 0.7
[6/28/2016 9:16:40 PM] [DEBUG] [Main Thread] PopulateDataModel: Transferring view to the data model…