Meridian Flip error: Same pier side before and after flip

Hello,

I had this error last night: (v 2.6.0.25)
ASCOM Telescope: Failed to flip because starting pier side and ending pier side are the same!

Anyone got an idea what may has caused this ? (I can’t remember I had this problem in the past)

[04.18.18 05:29:16.794][DEBUG] [Pier Flip Thread] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Post-Wait: Stopped
[04.18.18 05:29:16.794][DEBUG] [Pier Flip Thread] PHD2: Successfully stopped PHD2…
[04.18.18 05:29:16.794][DEBUG] [Pier Flip Thread] Meridian Flip: Sending Telescope command to execute meridian flip
[04.18.18 05:29:17.029][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] ASCOM Telescope: Pier side is West
[04.18.18 05:29:17.029][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] ASCOM Telescope: attempting pier flip using slew
[04.18.18 05:29:17.434][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Slewing to J2000 RA: 16,7668528905253 (16h46m00,67s) Dec: 61,0290362226755 (61°01’44,53")
[04.18.18 05:29:17.434][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Slew received J2000 coordinates, mount requires JNOW, converting…
[04.18.18 05:29:17.434][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Slewing to JNOW RA: 16,77127 Dec: 60,9947
[04.18.18 05:29:17.434][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Calling Observatory Slave Slew
[04.18.18 05:29:24.334][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Scope reports it is done with synchronous slew, verifying…
[04.18.18 05:29:24.545][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Observatory is reporting slewing
[04.18.18 05:29:25.545][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Slewing has completed
[04.18.18 05:29:26.179][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] ASCOM Telescope: Failed to flip because starting pier side and ending pier side are the same!
[04.18.18 05:29:26.200][DEBUG] [Pier Flip Thread] Meridian Flip: Telescope command to meridian flip has completed
[04.18.18 05:29:26.200][DEBUG] [Pier Flip Thread] Meridian Flip: Telescope failed to perform meridian flip
[04.18.18 05:29:35.637][DEBUG] [Pier Flip Thread] Meridian Flip: Procedure complete
[04.18.18 05:29:58.211][DEBUG] [Main Thread] PopulateDataModel: Transferring view to the data model…
[04.18.18 05:29:58.216][DEBUG] [MF Update Thread] Performing serialize…
[04.18.18 05:30:16.787][DEBUG] [PHD2 Listener Thread] PHD2 - No messages received from PHD2 for 1 minute, checking socket with status…
[04.18.18 05:30:16.787][DEBUG] [PHD2 Listener Thread] Checking PHD2 state…
[04.18.18 05:30:16.787][DEBUG] [PHD2 Listener Thread] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Pre-Wait : Stopped
[04.18.18 05:30:16.787][DEBUG] [PHD2 Listener Thread] Sending to PHD2:
{“method”: “get_app_state”, “id”: 1001}

In the past, these kind of issues were tracked to flip angle settings being too close to the meridian, in so much that different parts of the software system were on different sides.

What is curios to me I did not change anything to the mounts flip angle settings , nor anything in SGP.

To bad there is only one sentence with the information "ASCOM Telescope: Pier side is West "
though it is not clear to me if this is the current status right before pier flip or if its a part of the slew command for the new mount position.

Things happen, I just updated TSX and it wiped out my park position. In some other posts, these issues were due to the flip point being on the meridian. Any uncertainty should be removed by making it a few degrees.

H Thomas66,

Have you found a solution to your problem? I’m having the same issue where ASCOM is saying same pier side. I’m on the latest version of SGP using a Mach1-GTO4. Thanks, Keith.

[04/20/18 23:42:36.270][DEBUG] [Pier Flip Thread] Meridian Flip: Sending Telescope command to execute meridian flip
[04/20/18 23:42:36.293][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] ASCOM Telescope: Pier side is West
[04/20/18 23:42:36.293][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] ASCOM Telescope: attempting pier flip using slew
[04/20/18 23:42:36.297][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Slewing to J2000 RA: 12.6052381067656 (12h36m18.86s) Dec: 14.3706940053684 (14°22’14.50")
[04/20/18 23:42:36.297][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Slew received J2000 coordinates, mount requires JNOW, converting…
[04/20/18 23:42:36.298][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Slewing to JNOW RA: 12.6206666666667 Dec: 14.2705555555556
[04/20/18 23:42:42.693][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Scope reports it is done with synchronous slew, verifying…
[04/20/18 23:42:42.715][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Slewing has completed
[04/20/18 23:42:42.715][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Settling for 2 seconds
[04/20/18 23:42:44.715][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] Telescope: Settling has completed
[04/20/18 23:42:45.216][DEBUG] [Telescope Thread] ASCOM Telescope: Failed to flip because starting pier side and ending pier side are the same!
[04/20/18 23:42:45.460][DEBUG] [Pier Flip Thread] Meridian Flip: Telescope command to meridian flip has completed
[04/20/18 23:42:45.460][DEBUG] [Pier Flip Thread] Meridian Flip: Telescope failed to perform meridian flip
[04/20/18 23:43:14.890][DEBUG] [Pier Flip Thread] Meridian Flip: Procedure complete
[04/20/18 23:43:36.257][DEBUG] [PHD2 Listener Thread] PHD2 - No messages received from PHD2 for 1 minute, checking socket with status…
[04/20/18 23:43:36.257][DEBUG] [PHD2 Listener Thread] Checking PHD2 state…
[04/20/18 23:43:36.257][DEBUG] [PHD2 Listener Thread] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Pre-Wait : Stopped
[04/20/18 23:43:36.257][DEBUG] [PHD2 Listener Thread] Sending to PHD2:
{“method”: “get_app_state”, “id”: 1001}

[04/20/18 23:43:36.257][DEBUG] [PHD2 Listener Thread] PHD2 GetPhdStatus - Post-Wait: Stopped
[04/20/18 23:43:42.882][DEBUG] [Sequence Thread] Blocking Pier Flip: Failed to meridian flip, aborting sequence (False)
[04/20/18 23:43:42.882][DEBUG] [Sequence Thread] Adding sequence level notification: Failed to meridian flip, aborting sequence.
[04/20/18 23:43:42.887][DEBUG] [Sequence Thread] Sending Notification: Error - Failed to meridian flip, aborting sequence.
[04/20/18 23:43:42.887][DEBUG] [Sequence Thread] EventMarker 3 - t:m91 (0); e:0; f:39; o:* aborted *
[04/20/18 23:43:42.887][DEBUG] [Sequence Thread] EventMarker 10 - t:m91 (0); e:0; f:39; o:* aborted *
[04/20/18 23:43:42.889][DEBUG] [Sequence Thread] Run event requested sequence abort…
[04/20/18 23:43:42.889][DEBUG] [Sequence Thread] ********* Run post sequence *********

It’s likely an issue with your mount and SGP thinking the meridian is in different locations. Try setting a value in SGP so that the mount tracks a couple of degrees past what SGP thinks is the meridian and try again. You can also attempt this manually by slewing past the meridian manually and then triggering a flip in SGP.

Also you may want to double check that your mount reports the meridian in about the same time that SGP is. There will likely be some “wiggle”. But essentially my guess is that your mount doesn’t think it’s passed the meridian yet and SGP thinks it has.

Thanks,
Jared

Thanks Jared that makes sense. I will try that and report back.

Keith

I’m having the same problem with my Losmandy G11 Gemini 1.

Jared said " You can also attempt this manually by slewing past the meridian manually and then triggering a flip in SGP."

How do I trigger a flip manually?

Thanks
Jim

Just click the run button:

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Jared